tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post3164337372847156351..comments2023-10-27T03:41:13.171-07:00Comments on Warning Signs: All the News The Times Wants You to KnowAlan Carubahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-75664621485066353402010-12-01T02:17:13.087-08:002010-12-01T02:17:13.087-08:00Alan:
We are in total agreement that I'm cons...Alan:<br /><br />We are in total agreement that I'm conspiracy minded, paranoid and always expecting negative outcomes :-)<br /><br />Also, that PFC Manning is a poster boy for keeping homosexuals out of the military.Ronbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02767498198886077632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-21072964125653046622010-12-01T00:01:29.595-08:002010-12-01T00:01:29.595-08:00Ummmnnnnn....I thought that Assange had left the N...Ummmnnnnn....I thought that Assange had left the NY Times out of his mailing list this time.<br /><br />Personally I don't have anything against homosexuals serving their country. There are many fine men and women who do just that. <br /><br />However Manning is an unstable individual and his security clearance does reflect badly on the process that vetted him. To tar all homosexuals with the same brush is patently unfair.mawmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096088408416933018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-33372412334715171072010-11-30T23:44:17.807-08:002010-11-30T23:44:17.807-08:00I dunno about your comment on conspiracy theories,...I dunno about your comment on conspiracy theories, Alan. I worked in intelligence at SAC HQ from late 1954 to the spring of 1958, and was well trained in all aspects of gathering, collating, assessment and secure distribution of intelligence data. Can't tell about what exactly I did or worked on, of course. "Black project". At that particular time, we WERE on the verge of nuclear war with the USSR.<br /><br />We did know how to keep secrets secret then.<br /><br />As part of my training, I was allowed to read various once Top Secret then downgraded to Secret classified field intelligence reports, with the assessment reviews and the sources identified. I had, at the ripe old age of 18, a Top Secret security clearance. At 19, I was assigned as the sole person to operate a Top Secret vault, reporting directly to the Major in charge of the large intelligence section of the 544th Reconnaissance Technical Squadron, later upgraded to an intelligence wing. I was thoroughly vetted by the FBI, with special agents of the FBI even going out to the field my future father-in-law was plowing to question him about me. <br /><br />Conspiracies have been as common as grass throughout history. Some are but paranoia, but many are not. Some have been rather elaborate and long lasting. With a guaranteed death penalty, death by assisted accident, assisted suicide or assisted accidental poisioning of your loved ones and yourself without virtue of a trial, secrets can be largely kept, and conspiracies kept ongoing.<br /><br />It was nasty but vital work I was involved in, and was difficult to leave, and I had to sign under oath some serious non-disclosure statements before I was allowed to separate from the USAF.<br /><br />This was classified State deppartment data, and it is obvious that State has no competent security measures to prevent this type of disclosure of classified documents.<br /><br />This was an attack against America, and particularly an attack on the Obama administration, IMHO.<br /><br />As I assess it, we are in a now seemingly cold war of great magnitude, and few seem to realize it.LarryOldtimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10811006386363706079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-47144104842000884892010-11-30T16:51:13.517-08:002010-11-30T16:51:13.517-08:00@Ronbo: I am not a fan of conspiracy theories beca...@Ronbo: I am not a fan of conspiracy theories because such events usually turn out to be the act of one idiot with grandiouse notions.<br /><br />Pfc Manning, however, is a living example of why the US Army does not want homosexuals in its ranks.Alan Carubahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-29392713601251973872010-11-30T13:13:12.308-08:002010-11-30T13:13:12.308-08:00Alan:
I'm thinking the Obama administration&#...Alan:<br /><br />I'm thinking the Obama administration's impotent handling of this case is proof positive that PFC Manning was fed the top secret documents by high regime officials in yet another effort to trash the USA before the world.<br /><br />I'm also of the opinion that the blow back from this sorry affair will be one more nail in the coffin of what I'm sure will be the most infamous and hated administration in American history.Ronbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02767498198886077632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-28182503708977827702010-11-30T11:44:01.300-08:002010-11-30T11:44:01.300-08:00While I certainly agree with your premise, that se...While I certainly agree with your premise, that secret data should be kept secret, the fault of this fiasco rests firmly on the shoulders of our own State Department. <br /><br />Sending directions and gathering data sure to be politically sensitive and scandalous by cable was insane to begin with. Keeping electronic files of these sensitive cables on a computer that could be accessed by so many people is stupidity beyond rational belief. The counter action now taken to prevent these sorts of files from being purloined in the future isn't going to help in the least.<br /><br />There is such a thing as need-to-know, and far more secret ways of transmitting these sensitive messages. <br /><br />There is no way any government can stand without propaganda, or with the present madness called complete openness of government proceedings.<br /><br />Like it or not, this nation of ours has many enemies, and these enemies are bent on harming us as much as is legally possible. Many of our enemies are "news outlets", such as the NYT and Guardian, and are well known for publishing these damaging tittle-tattle sorts of things which cause great scandals.<br /><br />As the old saw goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."<br /><br />There is no cure for this sort of thing after the fact , but there is a world of prevention that could be taken, far beyond present steps contemplated that I have seen published. For that matter, what steps we use to protect the secrecy of this sort of data shouldn't be let known at all.LarryOldtimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10811006386363706079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-79844113480344227732010-11-30T07:36:20.260-08:002010-11-30T07:36:20.260-08:00"----aggregating for itself the right to “ill..."----aggregating for itself the right to “illuminate aspects of American foreign policy---”"<br /><br />Arrogating is the word you need by the way.<br /><br />Good article. Much to think through.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514137502528645979noreply@blogger.com