tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post6952366181036654652..comments2023-10-27T03:41:13.171-07:00Comments on Warning Signs: The Turning Point for "Entitlement" ProgramsAlan Carubahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-12932165384326809482011-08-11T22:10:11.232-07:002011-08-11T22:10:11.232-07:00Everyone knows about it. I am really confusing abo...Everyone knows about it. I am really confusing about welfare programs.SEO Companyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12759334378200567451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-81889336963215603982011-07-28T11:53:27.358-07:002011-07-28T11:53:27.358-07:00Will, as Alan stated, payouts from OUR Social Secu...Will, as Alan stated, payouts from OUR Social Security TRUST FUND are (or at least should be) based on whether you've paid money in to the trust or not. Your financial status when you retire should have nothing to do with it. Just because someone doesn't NEED the money at retirement time doesn't mean they shouldn't get it back.Guy in Ohiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427016567260606130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-39347661244453417412011-07-28T05:52:30.006-07:002011-07-28T05:52:30.006-07:00I'm from the old school I guess, where a deal ...I'm from the old school I guess, where a deal is a deal. Doesn't the 'full faith and confidence of the United States Government' extend to its citizens who also are creditors? I've paid into this system for nearly 45 years 'loaning' the government my hard earned money on the promise that it would be paid back to me when I finally retired. <br /><br />I have no problem revising the system and even phasing it out over a generation, but young kids going to work today are still being given the promise.<br /><br />If SS is to be phased out, they shold stop collecting money today from the young people just starting work and let them invest that money somewhere else. Pay those who have been promised under the flag of 'full faith and confidence in the US Government' by making deep cuts in other social programs and, yes, defense is going to have to take a hit also. <br /><br />All the crap that was added to SS over the years hasn't helped the sitation...survivor benefits, disability income, medicare/medicaid. I heard somewhere that Johnny Carson's 3 ex-wives are all collecting SS under his account. Johnny Carson collecting social security??? And his 3 ex-wives??? Is that the height of lunacy or what?Will Harmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08517056183463981595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-63091030949636068082011-07-28T02:25:03.598-07:002011-07-28T02:25:03.598-07:00I believe these discussions on reform of Social Se...I believe these discussions on reform of Social Security and other Entitlement programs have become moot, and like the old Soviet Union in 1989, the old United States is about to go belly up for many of the same reasons in the next few years.<br /><br />However, I do not expect the USA to disappear like the old USSR, but I do expect the new republic to be much more lean and leave the welfare thing and business regulation to the various states.<br /><br />In the mean time - buy gold and lots of ammunition - It's going to be one hellva a wild ride down Space Mountain!Ronbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02767498198886077632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-64353911517292381212011-07-27T21:11:24.123-07:002011-07-27T21:11:24.123-07:00In my opinion, SS should have never been "pha...In my opinion, SS should have never been "phased in" in the first place. It was unconstitutional then, and it's unconstitutional now.<br /><br />If it's going to be phased out, the people who've paid any money in had better get every dime of their money back - with interest.<br /><br />As far as the debt is concerned, when the entire US debt was the equivalent of a week's salary on a young man's credit card, an occasional credit line increase was no big deal. When we started letting them put our entire annual budget on credit cards, the situation changed.<br /><br />They've maxed out the first credit card, gotten twenty more, and maxed them all out too. It's the kind of mistake you'd expect from an immature twenty year old, not from professional economists and public servants.<br /><br />Now, it's time to pay the piper. Asking our creditors for permission to open up yet ANOTHER credit card is not just foolish and irrational, it should be illegal.<br /><br />Our government regulates consumer credit and restricts citizens from assuming excessive debt from predatory lenders. Why aren't they responsible enough to apply those same principles and restrictions to our federal borrowing ...?<br /><br />They act as if the perils of excessive debt that we face as citizens don't exist in their world. What a bunch of traitors ...Guy in Ohiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427016567260606130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-29520418622768538072011-07-27T19:32:18.448-07:002011-07-27T19:32:18.448-07:00I have arranged my house payment to be equal to my...I have arranged my house payment to be equal to my SS payment. I tried to get out of the program as a combat pilot and pastor, but did not qualify. I do not feel bad that I am getting some return on all that I paid in over thirty + years of contributing by force of government.Dave's Daily Day Dreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17491764990082380190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-13764870250690546432011-07-27T17:37:12.512-07:002011-07-27T17:37:12.512-07:00Agreed, SS needs to be phased out but tons of mone...Agreed, SS needs to be phased out but tons of money could be saved if they just tightened up on the scammers... <br /><br />And welfare could save money too, and I realize they are different programs, I am on Social Security disability too... <br /><br />ALL government programs, federal and state, are shot through with mismanagement, waste and corruption.. <br /><br />If there was some way to hold all of these people, from the top in DC to the recipients in our neighborhoods accountable, I really do believe we'd save so much money that SS could easily survive, if only it were used for it's true intent...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-28693853366846408552011-07-27T16:42:02.247-07:002011-07-27T16:42:02.247-07:00@Fred: You may be confusing welfare programs with ...@Fred: You may be confusing welfare programs with Social Security which is based on payment into by recipients. I think any revision would have to "grandfather" in old coots like me and others to ensure we get our promised benefits. Others could be means tested, etc. In the end, SS has to be phased out in my opinion.Alan Carubahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-60742062891974436242011-07-27T15:20:02.913-07:002011-07-27T15:20:02.913-07:00Ya know, just thinkin' here, but maybe Social ...Ya know, just thinkin' here, but maybe Social Security needs to examine the accounts of those receiving payments, take a look at real eligibility and qualifications for actual NEED... <br /><br />Not that *some* folks would scam the system... <br /><br />Then look at welfare and food stamps... No more FREE RIDE just because some woman can spit out a fresh brat every 9 months or because some scam artist can fake a limp when he goes in for review... <br /><br />The savings could be phenomenal...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com