tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post7189885459302706602..comments2023-10-27T03:41:13.171-07:00Comments on Warning Signs: With "Friends" Like TheseAlan Carubahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-57544922378043371132008-11-05T14:56:00.000-08:002008-11-05T14:56:00.000-08:00Nov. 5,2008"Proposition H, which would have set de...Nov. 5,2008<BR/>"Proposition H, which would have set deadlines for San Francisco to meet clean and sustainable energy usage goals and reduce the city's dependence on fossil fuels, was rejected by 59 percent of voters." <BR/><BR/>Excerpt from http://cbs5.com/localwire/<BR/><BR/>Evidently there is a little sanity left in SF!libertyforusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08584974436761909593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-88127012580130684602008-10-19T12:51:00.000-07:002008-10-19T12:51:00.000-07:00Thermal depolymerization in a nut shell is the pro...Thermal depolymerization in a nut shell is the process of taking hydro-carbons, whether it is plastics, wood, or kitchen scraps, cooking it under high pressure and steam, more or less what our planet does to hydrocarbons, just faster, to produce oil and gas. <BR/><BR/>They have long since broken the break even mark, so for ever unit of energy they put into cooking the waste you get more than one unit out, potentially much more than one unit!<BR/><BR/>From there all of the non-hydrocarbons can be sorted out and processed with the waste heat and some of the energy produced from the processes hydrocarbons.<BR/><BR/>So literally, from a small group of plants, garbage (except toxic <I>non-hydrocarbon</I>) can go in, energy and recycled raw materials come out the other end.<BR/><BR/>Yup, the cool thing is, all of those toxic hydrocarbons, all get cooked the same as our left over lettuce, whether it is brake fluid, medical waste, chicken rendering, you name it.<BR/><BR/>And it is running in this country as we type, trucks are already running on the bio-diesel coming out of these plants, and yet we are still starving people world wide because we feel the need to produce Ethanol from out corn, simply unconscionable!<BR/><BR/>So yes, we can make money from our garbage instead of putting it in the ground! Future garbage archeologists be damned :-)<BR/><BR/>TomLoneRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657512718961498160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-54949660365830218872008-10-19T12:35:00.000-07:002008-10-19T12:35:00.000-07:00You have not explained where we would put the garb...You have not explained where we would put the garbage if we shut down landfills. One can either bury it or burn it. <BR/><BR/>Since we have enough hydrocarbons (oil, gas, coal) to maintain modern society for a very long time to come and since there are no viable substitutes on the horizon, I think we should try to be as realistic as possible.<BR/><BR/>As to the Greens, their disdain for humanity informs everything they say and do.Alan Carubahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-21473735634649222392008-10-19T12:28:00.000-07:002008-10-19T12:28:00.000-07:00Alan,There are a few technologies that the Greenie...Alan,<BR/><BR/>There are a few technologies that the Greenies should be embracing, ones that make so much more sense. One that I have been harping on is Thermal depolymerization, and other Energy from waste technologies.<BR/><BR/><A SRC="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization"> Wikipedia: Thermal depolymerization</A><BR/><BR/>If the greenies truly cared about the earth and man kind, this is where they would start. Simply put, we should, at this point shut down every land fill in this country. And I truly believe our standard of living, GDP and what we pay for energy and materials would all be better! In fact we could probably replace thousands if not millions of imported barrels sweet crude to boot.<BR/><BR/>If we where to re-start inert-to-inert research for nuclear energy, gasification of coal for transportation, combined with the oil and gas reserves we already have we could be easily self sufficient for many decades, then add in energy from waste technologies to eliminate all hydrocarbons from land fills and think of the potential for this country!<BR/><BR/>I am <B>far from an expert!</B> but except for possibly the Chevy Volt I am not and all impressed with battery or hybrid vehicles, simply put, there is is no energy source that I know of, that is as energy dense as liquid fuels (at atmospheric pressure), ie. (bio-)gasoline, (bio-)diesel. And thus, if you are going from A to B, use one of those fuels is going to be the most cost efficient in general. To me dragging around a huge battery is just silly. But I am quickly typing away from what I started to say.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I am left to believe that the Greenies would be quit happy to see the human population significantly thinned out.<BR/><BR/>If they truly cared about the earth, and not control, they would not be pushing the technologies they are pushing.<BR/><BR/>Electric/hybrid cases: Massive mining for lithium, disposal and recycling of batteries!<BR/><BR/>Wind/Solar: Exotic materials for blades, solar panels, massive batteries or stored water potential for 24*7 coverage, or worse gas turbines running hot-standby.<BR/><BR/>It has to be clear, Greenies are not about green, but rolling back civilization.<BR/><BR/>Thoughts????<BR/><BR/>cheers,<BR/>TomLoneRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657512718961498160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-82291683448213392162008-10-19T10:48:00.000-07:002008-10-19T10:48:00.000-07:00Alan,Fortunately for truth, I refer to the quote b...Alan,<BR/>Fortunately for truth, I refer to the quote by Edward Bulwer-Lytton "THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD."<BR/>Also preceding Bulwer-Lytton was Thomas Jefferson, who in 1796 sent a letter to Thomas Paine in which he wrote: "Go on doing with your pen what in other times was done with the sword." [source=http://www.trivia-library.com/]<BR/>With masterful word warriors like yourself spreading truth with your penned insights, we may just hold on to our precious freedom and liberty.<BR/>Thank you Alanlibertyforusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08584974436761909593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-29133209139727539432008-10-19T06:38:00.000-07:002008-10-19T06:38:00.000-07:00I had the pleasure of meeting Lord Monkton in Marc...I had the pleasure of meeting Lord Monkton in March at a Heartland Institute conference and I did happen to read his open letter to McCain. The global warming hoax is coming apart at the seems. The Greens, however, are desperate to impose cap and trade schemes and other restrictions on the economy, so the battle is far from over.Alan Carubahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-13995866689152190392008-10-18T20:38:00.000-07:002008-10-18T20:38:00.000-07:00AlanI havn't written in a while. I've been kind of...Alan<BR/><BR/>I havn't written in a while. I've been kind ofbusy with the election.<BR/>That said. I call to your attention an article in todays American Thinker titled "An Open Letter from The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley Senator John McCain about Climate Science and Policy.<BR/><BR/>He absolutly rips to shreds the underlying Climate Change assumptions of a speech by John McCain about the need for "Cap-and-Trade carbon credits among other equally stupid things.<BR/><BR/>I think also you will appreciate the absolutly beautiful use of the English language so abundantly displayed here.<BR/><BR/>Don't miss it.<BR/><BR/>PC is Thought Control<BR/>LEELee Hazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10927859573378763829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-59179845792579723332008-10-18T17:01:00.000-07:002008-10-18T17:01:00.000-07:00What do I think? I think the world is full of liar...What do I think? I think the world is full of liars who savor power over others at the expense of the truth. They must be exposed and neutralized before they do great damage.Alan Carubahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901162110385985193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196554259323465442.post-357179103914527822008-10-18T16:57:00.000-07:002008-10-18T16:57:00.000-07:00Alan,None of these environmental groups seem to us...Alan,<BR/>None of these environmental groups seem to use actual science to make a case. My observation is that they use terminology that is selective to reinforce a point. Similarly, Obama is deceptive in using a mix of terms like tax credits and tax reduction. Than they are grouped into "tax cuts". In this manner he than states his policy is "a 95% tax cut for working families". Never mind this statement also includes non-working people.<BR/><BR/>The famous climate models that tote the Global Warming fraud all conveniently omit the greenhouse gas water vapor, which, as you point out makes the Co2 level (man-made or not) irrelevant.<BR/>These same "friends" will one day (in the not too distant future) be bringing law suits against alternative energy methods like wind and solar. It is anybody's guess as to what they will find so damaging about them. May I suggest the argument that they are woefully inefficient at best, and environmentally worse than the old technologies of clean coal and natural gas! That would probably be a good start! <BR/>Many of these groups seem to spring up for no reason other than the liberals in government are willing to throw the taxpayers money their way.<BR/>What do you think?libertyforusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08584974436761909593noreply@blogger.com